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Hi everyone,I'm from Portugal and I've decided to build a boat but am struggling to find marina grade plywood (BS1088).I'm waiting for a few quotes from Joubert and Laminar (both Loyds certified Okoume) dealers but I've come across a different and apparentelly new kind of marine plywood.The manufacturer is Garnica (the leading european manufacturer of caravan plywood), from Italy, and they state that their Marine Poplarply range of plywoods is fully suited for "boat fittings and furniture".Here are the specs:> Face: Poplar> Cores: Poplar> Glue: WBP Phenolic - UNE EN 314 Exterior (Class 3)> Module elasticity: 2016 N/mm2> Flexibility resistance: 29.9 N/mm2> Humidity: 6-14% - UNE EN 322:93> Density: 435 K/m3> Sheet size: 2520x1850x(10/12/15) mm> Price (discounts still to be negotiated but 5-10% is expectable):......10mm - 45,45Euro......12mm - 53,85Euro......15mm - 65,00EuroI don't have information (yet) about core gaps but face grade looks to be A/B.I normally wouldn't be asking these questions but seing as this is a new product, a green one at that (only manufacturer with a an eco friendly glueing process and non tropical wood) AND it's 10% lighter than Okoume AND less than 50% cheaper....Considering these specs, if core gaps are down to minimal values, would it be suited for the hull of a VG23?Has anyone worked with this plywoodand this manufacturer?Thanks in advance for your patience and time!Manufacturer site: http://www.garnicaplywood.com/productos ... d_idioma=2
Did you know that J. Gibson McIlvain sells plywood? It came to my attention recently when visiting customers that this was not a well known fact. Certainly hardwoods is where our legacy lies with hundreds of years in that market, but we decided to jump into plywood several years ago to offer some alternatives to our customers.
Despite plywood’s popularity, users tend to know very little about some of the features that distinguish a top quality sheet from the rest. I know personally that I have had some bad experiences with this supposed “stable” material when a cheaper made sheet cups like a potato chip at every opportunity. Since one of the primary reasons to use plywood is stability, these lower quality sheets seem quite ironic.
The plywood inner core is everything when it comes to the performance and appearance of the entire sheet. As face veneers have gotten thinner, they offer less support, and the core is even more important. It is this feature I will talk about today, as distinguishing between the types of hardwood plywood out there means choosing the right plywood core to match your project is the most important thing you can do for a successful outcome.
This is the most common core for plywood. In this core, thin veneers varying from 2 mm up to 6.5 mm are laid in alternating grain patterns to create a stable substrate. Usually the more layers, the more stable the product as the individual veneers are smaller. Gaps amongst and between veneer layers are inevitable and the quantity and size dictates the grade of the sheet. Veneer core plywood is known to have the best screw holding capacity, and the veneer species themselves are readily available; thus this core is what most people know. The species of veneer can play a role in the performance as well. Usually the species is determined by the location of the mill where it was manufactured, but some of the differences may make you seek out specific options.
This plywood consists of thicker strips of hardwood, usually Basswood, glued up into a larger panel then face veneered. Two face veneers are used, one cross grain to tie together the core and prevent any telegraphing of the individual boards in the core to the face. Unlike the thin veneers, the individual staves or battens in this core are much thicker, usually 2/3 the total panel thickness. The advantage and primary reason to use a lumber core plywood is stiffness over longer lengths. Bookcases and shelves are the perfect example for using a lumber core plywood. In furniture an added advantage is when routed edge treatments are necessary and the edges cannot be concealed.
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Additionally since lumber core plywood (also known as Blockboard in much of Europe) uses primarily softwood lumber for the core, it is substantially lighter than veneer core plywood or MDF. As such Blockboard is used a great deal in the marine and aerospace industries where weight is a chief concern. In some instances a hardwood can be used in the core, but usually a lower density species is chosen to keep the weight down while adding strength with a tougher hardwood.
An issue with lumber core plywood is the variability that can be found in the core itself. Often voids can be found between the boards both on the long edge and at the end grain between lengths. Variance in price is usually indicative of how well the core is constructed. Factors to consider are width of the individual staves, density of the species used, dryness of the lumber, and whether or not the staves are joined together solely with glue or some time of interlocking finger joint. In the cases where finger jointing is used, voids all but disappear and a very rigid and stable core is the result. This is the most expensive core to make and finding suppliers for this type is increasingly difficult. Only the highest grade in lumber core should be considered as lesser grades have a severe drop off in consistency and substantial voids will be found. It is uncertain how much longer this type of core will be available with a drastic wane in availability.
While I group these two together since they are a composite substance, it should be known they are quite different as a finished product. Both cores are comprised of particles of wood glued together to make a consistently flat and dimensionally uniform substrate onto which the face veneer is applied. They are extremely stable but much heavier than solid wood core versions. Particle board uses larger pieces and will be lighter than MDF, but edges will splinter easily and they are not as strong as MDF. MDF is made of essentially dust and makes a much heavier but highly stable and millable substrate with strong edges. Both cores have been accused of having poor screw holding ability, but recent advances in fastener design has changed that. When used with specific particle board or MDF screws with wider threads, these plywood cores have outstanding screw holding ability.
There are other options on the market, but those listed above are the most common. Based on feedback from our customers, we have opted to stick with MDF and Veneer core plywood. We can obtain most any species of veneer core, but our most popular are Fir and Birch. Ultimately, when choosing the right plywood for your job, there are many factors to consider, but they usually all come back to the composition and construction of the core. Ask questions of your supplier to understand where and how the plywood is manufactured, so you can decide what will work best. Plywood can be a bit daunting since so many options and techniques are out there, and the manufacturers seem to purposely remain obtuse in explaining their methods and materials. If you are armed with some basics about core behavior, you are well on your way to picking the right product for your job.
Confused yet? You are not alone. So much plywood and so many factors to consider. In the end you need to understand what is important for your project in order to choose a quality plywood panel. To some it is stability, to others it is the quality of the face veneer. As always, we are happy to answer any questions about plywood, and our staff is well educated in the intricacies of this product so as to be able to provide advice whenever possible. Next time we will talk about the world of Marine Grade Plywood, because this product changes the rule substantially.
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